Spreading rumors at those forums is what they do best. They refuse to accept the reality Rainier is the place to go if you have a big dish, want good programming, and quality products.

Folks are waking up as Rainier has grown substantially. Many have told our staff the horror stories dealing with these garage based fta dealers. The choice is the consumers. Rainier twists nobody's arm to buy our products and services. However we do speak truthfully and offer the best phone and e-mail support that fta dealers never have. Rainier wants to see our customers satisfied and happy. We go out of the way to provide that.

Let these characters who continue to pollute the c band customer base with lies continue. Once they burn their customer they won't be coming back. After folk get the screws put to them by those dealers, they're very happy they found Rainier. Once being treated by our impeccable customer service and support keep coming back for more, and guess what? they bring their friends to us. The circle of life continues, the industry benefits and Rainier grows.

Rainier wants to thank all who made us get to where we are today. We promise to continue to do everything possible to grow the satellite industry by bringing you the best programming choices, and products available.

I see SATELLITEGUYS started up a new bash Rainier thread. They're sticking to the old lie filled incorrect information script about the 9865 talked about here. God you think they would spend a few coins on some new ghostwriters to modernize the 6 year old BS.

Are these FTA babies that pathetic or just totally brain dead?   

Wonder what ever happened to the person that stole from his employer and started all of this crap about Rainier? Vendick, Stargays and Anthill. I believe I read at another place that his name is Steve Kleinot and that he got caught stealing 1200.00 from his employer. This rectum appears to have disappeared or is using a different or multiple different names. Since he's done it before maybe he embezzled from another employer and is doing time.

TVROSAT and its Tek2000 sponsor (Alex Portillo aka John Simpson, aka Carlos)  has joined Satelliteguys again to continue the smear of Rainier. He signs up new fake users at Tvrosat that disagree with his preaching. Then he bans the fake user and says its Rainiers employees. This is the same kind of activity that the defunct pirate site that was run by bosshogg used. Was Alex Portillo (AKA Tek2000) bosshogg?

The way this smear is rearing its ugly face again says only one thing. Their flawed business model with continuous screwing of their customers has taken a toll on them. They conveniently blame Rainier for this since Rainier is experiencing growth while they're not. Maybe it's time they take a look in the mirror at their flawed business plan, stop lying and take care of the few customers they may have.  But then again maybe they can't grasp common sense.

Tek2000 also uses multiple nics at TVROSAT and satforums to do his bashing. I bet he's still tied into SATELLITE GUYS with hidden identities and posts in Scotts diatribe threads. His original nic rooneysat was booted out of there years ago. That guy is freakin pathetic.